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Look at the big ole detached parking orlando cheap hotels deck this is exactly the car-centric development orlando cheap hotels that we need! Maybe they ll configure the sidewalks to dump you out onto the parking deck entrances and exits for a more exciting pedestrian experience. Way to go Novare!
I m wondering if they re skipping the integrated parking since they realized it probably orlando cheap hotels costs a lot more to engineer. Either that or they have dreams of renting the spots to people who work in Midtown.
orlando cheap hotels As for Novare going bankrupt, I think that was the worry when they built the Atlantic but I think they just defaulted on the non-recourse loan and handed it off to the FDIC/Starwood. Who knows how they survived but they seem to have sold off almost all their inventory in buildings orlando cheap hotels they do still have an interest in.
As for making orlando cheap hotels money isn t that the whole point of the game? Developers that lose sight of their most profitable customers lose their buildings. The glass towers may be ubiquitous but it seems their deviation to a luxury tower wound up failing miserably so they re doubling down on the sure bet of glass and raw concrete.
Parking here really needs to be modified orlando cheap hotels so that it isn t so destructive to future development. Underground (considerably more expensive), internalized (which may mean a taller building), or simply smaller, with less room for cars. Having a building who s parking orlando cheap hotels lto takes up a bigger footprint than it does, and in the process ruins any prospects for future development along the street-front it faces is piss poor.
Oh, and I believe I said something before about Atlanta being in bed with the same small cast of major developers, who build the same boring styles of buildings. I don t recall if I put Novare on that list, but they definitely need to be there.
I know some elements of Novare s history having partnered on a deal with them before but can not share. I will just say that for construction loans, the developer typically is just signing recourse that they will complete the building . and Novare did complete The Atlantic. orlando cheap hotels Corporately they had numerous investors and corporate lender orlando cheap hotels that essentially took over all the assets. In that sense, orlando cheap hotels I would say the Novare you see today is in the same company in name only.
At least the parking decks on these new buildings are incorporating in some retail space. That s better than nothing. However I think a configuration like 1010 Peachtree would be better, where the building is built on top of the parking deck and still incorporates retail.
What will likely happen is Novare will run the development, but they ll bring in an equity partner with a clean(er) orlando cheap hotels record to act as the sponsor. This will mean signing on any guarantees, having control of the deal, etc. Novare will likely also invest in the deal, just without much a controlling interest. Unless, of course, there s a bank out there that would be willing to finance this deal.
I wish Novare would just go away haven t you messed Atlanta up enough already?????? The last thing we need right now is more apartments the only reason developers are jumping on this bandwagon is because apartment developments are the only source of financing right now. That doesn t necessarily MEAN we need more apartments, Mr. Border!!!!
@ Concerned orlando cheap hotels Atlanta s urban area has a fraction of the apartments that other major cities do. Midtown orlando cheap hotels doesn t have even remotely close to the amount of foot traffic a major urban neighborhood should have, which is largely why so much of the retail space in the neighborhood is vacant. While I agree that I don t think Novare should be the developer here, I completely disagree with the notion that we don t need anymore orlando cheap hotels apartments.
New supply over the past 2-3 years has been very limited, while home ownership rates are falling, and old obsolescent apartments have been demolished (but not replaced). The point here is that apartments are a good investment (i) in the future of the city, as they bring people in, and (ii) because they are the one sector of real estate right now with truly excellent fundamentals.
I am in total agreement that this building if built to these plans is as boring as they come, completely uninspiring. However, can someone shed some light on the Novare hate? I think Spire and Viewpoint were great additions to Peachtree St. and the Atlantic while a victim of the economy is a gorgeous building orlando cheap hotels and a great addition to the skyline.
It is important that developers listen to the community. I too have received several comments to our new phase at 12th Midtown. To add some clarity, apartments have always been a component of the 12th Midtown master plan.
We have not put an emphasis on the order of the phases but rather the feasibility of each component and at this time we feel the market is prime for apartments, orlando cheap hotels high-rise or otherwise. We would have hoped to be delivering the project by now but the global economy orlando cheap hotels and subsequent difficulties for funding have postponed many projects.
I strongly agree with Urbanist, the fundamentals are very strong in Midtown and we feel the need for infill, pedestrian and transit oriented multi-family is an under-served aspect of the Atlanta market. We don t anticipate this being a project that the commuity will view as what were they thinking! but rather a much needed addition to an already dynamic environment.
My excitement in seeing this headline was quickly crushed after seeing the renderings. We definitely need more apartments/foot traffic in Midtown but this rendering is horrible. The building is bland and garage horrific. Atlanta deserves better than this. I really hope this gets modified or denied.
The hate is more a disinterest in having orlando cheap hotels a concentrated percentage of the Atlanta skyline look like Novare s playground. Not only are their buildings incredibly boring from an exterior point of view, but their interiors orlando cheap hotels are incredibly drab. The Eclipse, the Spire, the Viewpoint all similar characteristics, all boring as hell. The most glaring aesthetic problem is the fact that most of their developments have a tone of raw, exposed concrete, internally orlando cheap hotels externally. This is obviously cheaper, and I get that raw loft space is in , but newly constructed raw loft space is fake and lame. And who the hell wants to live in a place that feels like a solitary confinement box, anyhow?
Midtown is in need of apartments. Transient, orlando cheap hotels young professionals are the majority of people that want to live in midtown. It is hard to justify buying a condo when you are not sure how long you will be in Atlanta. I do wish they would make more of an effort to hide the parking garage from pedestrians or put it underground entirely.
Urbanist we agree for once there is nothing about any of the new construction buildings in Midtown that I find the least bit appealing, especially orlando cheap hotels to buy, but I think their general orlando cheap hotels look will lend itself better for rentals. But yes, the for the most part feel very, institutional . thats why i chose an older building orlando cheap hotels in Midtown, a little off the core of the mile but much more inviting.
@ Clicker The city of Atlanta needs to become less car friendly. Period. Thats obviously requires orlando cheap hotels much more comprehensive planning than lets do away with parking garages . However, building a massive concrete structure that is going to take up all that frontage along Spring Street, orlando cheap hotels just like the Plaza s does along 7th street (I think), is extremely short-sighted. It basically says, sure we ll allow all this space that has future economic potential, to be wasted because the developer wants a big parking lot for it s tenants.
Integrated parking (like at 1010) is the way to go. I would say underground, but that would probably make the project uneconomical. orlando cheap hotels It shouldn t be very difficult to figure out a way to create a parking deck that doesn t ruin the aesthetics or economics of the rest of the block.
As a native and a downtown resident, I can tell you that the situation in Atlanta tends to be this: if you build a parking deck, it s going to stay there for decades. These are not temporary structures that will be torn down and replaced in a few years as area development grows.
Since parking decks stick around for such a long time, it s best to make sure that they fit in with the urban fabric well and that they don t hinder the progress of good urbanism (namely, pedestrian-friendly development) orlando cheap hotels in the future.
@ Clicker NEEDS to be. There are 420,000 people that live in the city of Atlanta, and traffic is a nightmare. If Atlanta is to ever become a great city, it s going to have become orlando cheap hotels substantially more dense. That s going to mean a lot more people in a smaller area. If all of those people bring cars with them, the city won t be able to handle it.
There is a drastic need for better orlando cheap hotels public transportation currently, and that need will just become greater the more Atlanta grows. If city officials don t get their heads out of their a$$es and start developing transportation orlando cheap hotels links between inner city neighborhoods, as opposed to wasting money by dragging MARTA up to North Fulton and worrying about commuters in Cobb County, the problem will just get worse. However, if they build those urban links (and by that I mean doing it where it matters, not this ridiculous streetcar project between Centennial Park and Auburn Ave), and develop, over time, real estate that accommodates car ownership less and less, then they have a chance.
I like the building from 12th and Midtown creators more, but again, this area can benefit from more parking and more luxury apartments. The parking deck here is ugly as hell (reminds me on Aqua, and how every time I see that building all I see is the parking deck